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Financial investments in Brazil: The non-resident's dilemma

3 dilemmas that get in the way of those who want to declare their permanent departure from the country and keep financial investments in Brazil

I often get questions from clients who live abroad and want to keep their jobs. financial investments in Brazil after the tax exit. I have already published texts on the final exit declaration, investing in Brazil while living abroad, o non-resident financial investment e data cross-checks by the Receita FederalI hope you find them useful in clearing up these doubts. 

The fact is, however, that people experience problems because there is a deep regulatory failure, and it is shameful to see how the lack of coordination between the Federal Revenue Service and the Central Bank harms the country.

The aim of this text is therefore to summarize the problems that people living abroad encounter when they try to formalize their non-resident status and, at the same time, maintain their financial investments. Where appropriate, reference will be made to previously published texts which contain more detail.

First dilemma: communication to banks and brokers

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Is it worth sending the letter according to the IRS model?

According to the regulations of the Brazilian Federal Revenue Service (RFB), a person who submits a Communication of Final Departure (CSD) or a Declaration of Final Departure from the Country (DSDP) is entitled to duty to notify paying sources of income in Brazil their non-resident status1See art. 3, §2, of the SRF Normative Instruction no. 208/2002.. The reason for the requirement is that the RFB itself cannot do this, as it infringes the duty to protect tax secrecy2See art. 198 of the CTN..

The banks and brokers in Brazil are paying sourcesThis is because they pay or intermediate interest, dividends and other financial income. The notification can be made by letter, and the IRS itself prepares a template automatically. Once submitted, the the source of payment is obliged to withhold income tax at source (IRRF) with the rules applicable to non-residents. 

When notifying the bank or brokerage house to fulfill their duty, the non-resident is informed that cannot keep their own bank account and financial investments in Brazil with the institution. Some clients have already reported that managers prefer not to be formally communicated with, as the only way to maintain the relationship with the client.

Note that none of this refers to RFB regulations. The point is that banks and brokers must comply with the regulations of the Central Bank and the National Monetary Council (CMN), which have a completely different focus.

Second dilemma: keeping a bank account after tax exits

Central Bank regulations prohibit banks from maintaining normal demand deposit accounts for non-residents3See Circular no. 3.691/2013, arts. 168-186.. They can only operate foreign domiciled accounts (CDEs)The Central Bank has created special bank accounts so that it can maintain control over the amounts held by non-residents in the country. This has a direct impact on the maintenance of financial investments in Brazil linked to these accounts.

The CDEs are subject to strict and disproportionate control. In regulatory terms, the money transferred from the Brazilian source to a CDE is treated as money transferred abroad, even for transfers in reais.

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Does leaving Brazil mean losing your bank account?

Banks are therefore obliged to document "currency outflows" into the CDE as if they were foreign exchange transactions. But the Central Bank's regulations are aimed at the bank, not the account holder. For the non-resident who decides to report his tax outflow, what matters is that the bank will not keep your normal bank account. Nor is the bank obliged to open the CDE, and the rigor required by the Central Bank gives little economic incentive for the CDE to be offered as a financial product.

Unfortunately, the difficulties don't end with the difficulty in opening the CDE. The CDE is a bank account to which financial investments in Brazil, which are also affected, are linked. 

Third dilemma: preserving financial investments after the tax exit

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Does permanently leaving Brazil mean keeping irregular investments?

From a tax point of view, the treatment of financial investments in Brazil is favorable. The RFB allows non-residents to choose two different tax regimes for your financial investments4See arts. 85-87 and 88-99 of the RFB Normative Instruction no. 1.585/2015., o general regime and special regimealso known as "Investor 4373".

The reasoning behind the two regimes is quite sound. The general regime should be the general rule, and the special regime should be the exception:

  • in general regimefinancial investments in Brazil are subject to income tax in the same way as a tax resident in Brazil.
    • The RFB requires the appointment of a legal representative who is responsible for paying income tax on net gains made on stock, commodities, futures and similar exchanges, with gold (a financial asset) and in off-exchange futures settlement transactions. For other financial investments, no legal representative is required;
  • in special regimeIt was created as a tax incentive to attract institutional investors (pension funds, sovereign wealth funds, etc.), the investor enjoys various tax favorsThese include exemption from gains on stock market operations and interest on government bonds.
    • This regime only applies to beneficiaries resident or domiciled abroad who meet the rules and conditions established by the National Monetary Council (CMN), as well as some additional requirements from the RFB. 

The dilemma in this case stems from CMN regulations. The CDE only allows financial investments in savings accounts, the bank's own CDBs and private pension funds. In order to invest in other financial assets (shares, investment funds, government bonds, etc.), the non-resident must meet the requirements of the special regime5See art. 1 of CMN Resolution No. 4.373/2014.. In other words, the special regime becomes the rule, not the exception. It becomes impossible to opt for the general regimeeven if the investor wants to.

From experience, some financial institutions can currently charge between R$ 2 thousand and R$ 5 thousand per month to comply with the CMN's requirements. This cost is perfectly acceptable for an institutional investor, for whom the special regime is intended. But it is unfeasible for small investors. This is where the regulation failed.

The result of the rule is the surprise that every non-resident feels when they tell their bank or broker that they have lost their tax resident status in Brazil. Even if they open a CDE, the cost of the special regime is unacceptable to many. And this leads to the relationship with the bank or broker being terminated and financial investments in Brazil being liquidated.

What to do?

There is no obvious answer for the situation of every person living abroad. The above points apply only to non-residents, so those who live abroad but maintain tax residency in Brazil are not affected (the situation of dual tax residence).

For non-residents, following the legislation as laid down by the RFB, the Central Bank and the CMN means communicating with banks and brokers and assuming the costs of the CDE and compliance with the special regime. The alternative is to liquidate investments in Brazil.

I have already analyzed cases in which taxpayers, usually out of ignorance, formalize the tax exit but fail to comply with the duty to notify the paying sources. For these cases, there is the risk that the RFB, when cross-checking information, assumes that the non-resident resumed tax residence in Brazil. We have already dealt with this situation and how to solve the problems of data cross-checks by the Receita Federal that often arise.

Today we are in a very different regulatory context from the one in which most of these rules originated. The Brazilian community abroad is larger and more widespread, with its own needs, to which we also have to respond. it is up to the Brazilian state to. To use the expression of one of our clients, "nobody leaves the country by turning off the light, leaving nothing behind".

Financial repression is not justified. The Brazilian capital market is more mature and has an interest in keeping small investors, whether Brazilian or foreign. It's clear that the Central Bank and the CMN should make it easier for those who have lived and worked in Brazil and want to continue investing in our market, even if they live abroad.

On this blog you will always find relevant, up-to-date information on the subject and guidance on how to avoid problems with the tax authorities and other authorities. Feel free to tell us about your experience, share the content with other friends who need guidance and contact us by e-mail at contato@tersi.adv.br or via WhatsAppClick here to send a message now.

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  • Vinicius Tersi

    Vinicius Tersi is a lawyer and specialist in international tax law. He also has a degree in Accounting and a Master's in Tax Law from USP, and is familiar with different legal and accounting systems. He specializes in international transactions for entrepreneurs and families with tax residency and assets in multiple jurisdictions. He is qualified to act in Brazil and Portugal.

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  • Vinicius Tersi

    Vinicius Tersi is a lawyer and specialist in international tax law. He also has a degree in Accounting and a Master's in Tax Law from USP, and is familiar with different legal and accounting systems. He specializes in international transactions for entrepreneurs and families with tax residency and assets in multiple jurisdictions. He is qualified to act in Brazil and Portugal.

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    • #6877
      Vinicius Tersi
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      3 dilemmas that get in the way of those who want to declare their permanent departure from the country and keep financial investments in Brazil

      [See the full article at Financial investments in Brazil: The non-resident's dilemma]

    • #7288
      Biz
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      I lived in the USA for 4 years (2015 to 2019), left permanently and kept all my investments in Brazil (shares, direct treasury, CDI, rental properties). I collected the taxes myself (without a legal representative), paying the tax returns with a non-resident code. I declared everything to the US tax authorities and deducted the amount of tax paid in Brazil from what I owed there.
      I tried to communicate my permanent departure to my bank and brokerage firm in Brazil, but I didn't even get a reply. I left my bank and brokerage accounts as if I were a resident (a famous consultant who helped us through the process said that it probably wouldn't be a problem).
      I've always paid the taxes due according to the legislation of each country, and I've never had a problem.
      I moved back to Brazil in 2019 and started filing my tax return here again. Since then, I've never had a problem with the IRS either. And my tax return is a mess, with dozens of different sources of income.
      My impression is that nobody controls anything about non-residents, and there is no such thing as psedo communication between governments. As long as you rigorously pay the taxes due in each place, no one will worry about you.

    • #7292
      Sebastião David
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      Excellent explanation, thank you.

      But the current rates charged by banks make it unviable for small non-resident investors to continue investing.
      Since the amounts for.ma'utencao account 4373 start at R$ 2,000.00 per month, Cde starts charging at R$ 1,000.00, making the small investor's plan completely unfeasible.

      I believe that with the advent of technology, the Rfb together with the Bacen could create a statement for investors to inform them of their remittances and withdrawals, thus reducing the cost for investors.

      Thanks and big hugs

    • #7293
      Carlos
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      Congratulations on the articles on the site, they are very enlightening!

      I've read in a few places (e.g: https://www.mazainvest.com.br/os-desafios-do-investidor-nao-residente) that the CDE would be a necessary account for non-residents who want to send money to Brazil to invest. If the person already has investments in Brazil from when they were a resident, but doesn't transfer new money for contributions or withdrawals, the account at the stock broker or bank could be kept. Is this true?

      For example, before leaving Brazil, a person had an account with a stockbroker, with investments in shares, FIIs, CDBs and Treasury Direct. After leaving the country, no money was put into the account, apart from receiving income from the investments, or the sale price of an asset. No withdrawals were made. More assets were acquired, but only using the amounts received from income and sales.

      Could there be a problem with the IRS in this case, since the income from these investments falls into the account with the IRPF already withheld at source, and there have been no deposits or withdrawals apart from these receipts?

      Thank you in advance for your attention

    • #7294
      Maria
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      Very good article! CVM Resolution 64/2022 came out a while ago. Has this made investing easier for non-residents?
      In my case, I live abroad, I left permanently 5 years ago, but I still have investments in banks, without any problem (for now). I intend to regularize it and it seems to me that this Resolution will make it easier.

      Thank you!

    • #7296
      Aline
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      Good afternoon, thank you for your clarification.
      It's one of the few places where quality information is available.
      One question: some brokers state on their website that after tax withdrawal it is only possible to keep the investments and/or redeem them.
      Is this legal? Because the information is contradictory...

    • #7299
      Carlos
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      Weren't the changes in CVM 64 of 2022 a step in the right direction? Before it, the "ex-Brazilian" seemed obliged to redeem everything and leave the country with their funds, or open the very limited (and very expensive) CDE account. Now it seems to have improved a lot. I understand that it needs to be digested and there needs to be more competition between banks and brokers, but it was a surprisingly better piece of legislation than the current situation. My broker (XP) told me that I could keep my investments here as if I were Brazilian (funds, stock exchange, pension plans and private bonds).

    • #7301
      Lidia
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      I left permanently without understanding how it worked and I still have financial assets in Brazil. How do I regularize it now? And when the bank makes a fool of itself and says that everything is OK, and from what I've read, it's not.

    • #7302
      Matheus
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      Does this CVM64 resolution change anything?

    • #7267
      Marcos Damaceno
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      Hello Dr. Vinicius!
      I fully agree that the legislation needs to be improved. It should be in the country's interest for Brazilian citizens to keep investments in Brazil when they move abroad. Some special control for foreigners' accounts in the country could even make sense, as long as it doesn't make it impossible to attract funds from abroad.
      Congratulations on this relevant and high-quality text!

    • #7268
      Paulo
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      Very good text and discussion, congratulations! I have just moved to Chile and I am going through this situation and it is really unbelievable that there is no facilitation for Brazilians abroad to keep investments in Brazil.

    • #7269
      Paulo
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      Now, also as I understand it, it depends a lot on whether the broker or bank through which we invest accepts keeping our investments as non-residents or not, right? And also, it seems that the biggest problem is making new investments with funds from abroad, because the investments we already have, in shares and funds, for example, these could be kept without any problems, right?

    • #7270
      Maria Helena
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      My question is: what about the situation of those who have been abroad, for example, since 1998, i.e. before the law was passed in 2002?

    • #7271
      Vinicius Tersi
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      Hello, Maria Helena!

      Thank you for your interest in our content. You could say that for those who left the country in 1998 it would be the same as under the current rule. IN SRF 208/2002 regulates much older laws. The main law dealing with permanent departure is Law 3.470/1958 (http://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/LEIS/L3470.htm#art17). The previous Normative Instruction, IN SRF 73/1998 (http://normas.receita.fazenda.gov.br/sijut2consulta/link.action?idAto=14244&visao=anotado) said more or less the same thing as the 2002 Normative Instruction.

      I hope I've been able to answer your question. If you need our support, just contact our team via WhatsApp or email!

    • #7272
      Vinicius Tersi
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      Maria Helena,

      one more thing: by total coincidence, we've just published a new post about a case that seems to be the same as yours, of someone who left the country in 1998: https://tersi.adv.br/nao-fiz-declaracao-de-saida-definitiva-do-brasil/

      Happy reading! If you need to contact us, just send an e-mail to contato@tersi.adv.br or WhatsApp!

    • #7273
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      Excellent text, but all the references to the other texts are broken. Would it be possible to restore the links? Thank you!

    • #7274
      Vinicius Tersi
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      Hello, Leonardo!

      Thank you very much for your interest and suggestion. We've just updated the article's references. Feel free to suggest other improvements!

    • #7275
      Márcio Akiyama
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      Greetings Vinicius.
      With the entry of cvm resolution 64 on 05/02/2022, what will change for non-resident investors?

    • #7276
      Victor Santos
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      I live in the US and I left Brazil in January 2014 and filed my exit tax return in 2015, but I didn't file the exit tax return because I didn't know the process. In 2020, with stocks at an all-time low due to the onset of Covid, I sent money to Brazil and invested it all in stocks. I want to get rid of everything now because I no longer see any point in keeping them.

      Do I have to declare income tax or not?

      I haven't sold any shares, but there are dividends and interest on own capital that I didn't declare in 2021 (ref. 2020) and I have until May 31 to declare 2022 (ref. 2021).

    • #7277
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      Dr. Vinicius
      I came across your articles today because I found myself having problems living abroad.
      I'm going to taste them and I'm sure I'll have questions and I'll let you know if you can help me.

    • #7278
      Debora Guedes
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      Hello, Vinicius,

      Great text, thanks for sharing your knowledge.

      I've lived in London for 11 years, with a few periods when I lived in Brazil for a few months, and I'm returning to Brazil for good. Due to lack of knowledge, I'm pretty sure I haven't declared tax residency here. I also haven't declared income tax because I don't have any income in Brazil. Do you know if I can invest in shares in Brazil, or if I might have any problems? Could you help me with this? Thank you in advance,

      Débora Guedes

    • #7279
      Alice
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      Hello Mr. Vinícius.

      The content of your site is excellent! I found here several answers to questions that no one in my city in Brazil could give. I would like your guidance on the following question:

      I made the Final Exit Declaration in 2017. At the time, when I looked up whether my bank had a CDE (Domiciled Abroad Account), I discovered that they didn't offer this option. As I didn't know how long I would be abroad, I opted to keep the account open and didn't formally inform the bank of my non-resident status. I never declared anything again in Brazil.
      In the US, I've declared every year since 2017:
      i) the current account that remained in Brazil; ii) the existing LCAs and the income obtained.
      Now I want to formalize my non-resident status with the bank, close the account in Brazil and bring the money to the USA.

      Questions:
      1) In Brazil, income from LCAs is exempt from income tax. Even so, should I have declared them through the DIRF because I'm a non-resident?
      2) How does the transfer of money from Brazil to the USA look to the IRS? How do I declare it?

      Thank you very much.

    • #7280
      Gustavo Ludwig
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      Good morning dr! Congratulations on the site!
      I did my last Income Tax Return in 2015 (exempt), and in 2016 my accountant did my DSPS. As I didn't know about the need to inform the bank of my withdrawal, I continued with my account and even renewed my credit card during this time (during this time I also renewed my driver's license and every year I cross the border to justify my vote in the elections). In addition, I used to have a private pension plan, where I made a withdrawal this year of the total amount invested (Brasilprev), where tax has already been withheld at source. In this case, can I keep my CPF pending regularization or not?
      I live in Paraguay, where Brazil has an agreement signed, but not in force, to avoid double taxation. And if I invest again in Brazil (fixed income, variable income, FII, FIAGRO, stock exchange), even if I live abroad, I have to declare it again in Brazil, right? So, should I still report my assets and income abroad (monthly or annually?) and pay tax both in Paraguay (where I already pay) and in Brazil? Thank you very much!

    • #7281
      Giovanna
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      Excellent text! Very complete!
      If the person doesn't file the final tax return, but continues to file the annual tax returns correctly, there is no penalty, right? Or if there is, you have to pay the 167.00 fine once. Is that it?

      And if the person brings part of the money earned abroad to invest here, is it taxed again in Brazil? Thank you.

    • #7282
      Paulo Rogério
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      Vinícius, thank you very much for sharing this information.
      As a wise man once said: "It's like it was designed not to work".
      But I would ask you another question:
      And a non-resident beneficiary of a VGBL plan.
      How would it be resolved?
      The insurance company wouldn't send an exchange of its corresponding share, would it?
      An attorney-in-fact could even be paid here in Brazil, and could remit this exchange as Resident Maintenance, right? But would you be exposed to any future tax problems?
      I don't think so because the VGBL is exempt, but it has to be declared and this proxy would just be a bridge.
      I'm sorry for asking too many questions

    • #7283
      Cintia
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      I came back from abroad last year after 4 years away, I did the Non-Resident Declaration and before I went I talked to my managers, nobody asked me to close the account, they just asked me to move it (savings account) from time to time so that it wouldn't close, and the next time, the same. I went back, did my tax return and had no problems...
      My problem comes now, because I'm going to spend another period abroad and now I have investments in brokerage houses... I'm not going to move anything from there or send any money here, I just didn't want to get rid of them but according to the "rule", I'm going to have to get rid of everything...😕

    • #7284
      Camilla
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      Hi Vinicius, thanks so much for sharing these details!
      Since it's so difficult for us to keep our inventories and bank accounts in Brazil after we leave, I think the solution would be to take our valuables abroad. In this case, it is necessary to declare the remittances abroad, right? Is there an amount limit?
      Thank you so much!

    • #7285
      Edna Melo
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      I came to the US in 2014 and didn't file a declaration of permanent departure from Brazil. I still keep my bank accounts and now I'd like to invest and I'm realizing that it's impossible for small investors. If I haven't made this declaration, could I have any problems in the future? Remember that I don't declare tax in Brazil.

    • #7286
      Bruno
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      I'm going to Spain now and I have an investment in my brokerage that can only be withdrawn next year, I'm going to transfer all the money there and then make the exit declaration, but what about the money I haven't been able to withdraw? Will they close the account and how do I get it? If it stays open, it'll show that I'm a resident.

    • #7287
      Rafael Pestana
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      Congratulations on the text. Very useful!

    • #7289
      Edgar R Pereira
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      Sensational content published regarding the life of the tax resident and investments in Brazil!!!

      What should I do with investments that have already been invested and cannot be withdrawn? Like long-term CDBs...

      I'm saying this because I have to make the tax withdrawal next year, can I keep it or should I follow another procedure with the broker?

    • #7290
      Hans
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      Interesting and well written. Clarifying that banks are sources of payment is essential. How would it be in the case of a tenant? He is the source of payment, but I don't understand how he could fulfill the duty described above.

    • #7291
      Henry
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      Hello, Dr. Vinícius,

      Excellent article! I'm looking for information about this because I find myself in a somewhat unusual situation: I left the bank permanently in 2015, but I had a joint account with my wife and a couple of assets in the Itaú brokerage that I hadn't regularized. Last year I removed my name from the account and ended the relationship with the bank, but I forgot about the assets in the brokerage. Now the broker won't let me access it, since I'm no longer an account holder, and won't let me open account 4373 to redeem the assets and close it again, this time permanently. The solution presented is to transfer everything to a broker that works with non-residents, but I don't know of any except BTG, which charges a lot for the account (every six months) as you commented in the article.

      Have you ever encountered a similar situation? Are there any alternatives, such as donating these assets to my wife? Or is the solution proposed by Itaú really the only viable one?

    • #7295
      Alexandre Jorge
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      Hello Vinicius, good afternoon!

      Congratulations on your post, very well written and very instructive.

      It's amazing how Brazil's governance is always playing against the country's interests.

      I've lived abroad for many years but I've been resident in Brazil for three years - I wanted to domicile my income from abroad in my Brazilian account. The bureaucratic process was so complicated that I had to give up!
      The generalized "mistrust" that prevails in Brazil has an astronomical cost and only the white-collar gangs take advantage of this wear and tear.

    • #7297
      luis
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      Hi Paulo.

      I'm also in CHILE and I've made my exit declaration.
      I pay DARF on the rent I receive. But what about income from investment funds? Do you know if I need to pay any DARF?

    • #7298
      Cintia Mendes
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      Just stopping by to thank you for your work.
      Your texts are very enlightening, you provide valuable information free of charge.
      I was full of doubts on the subject and now I feel able to do my tax return in both PT and BR.

    • #7300
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      The text is very good. I've looked for various sources on this subject, but they're not always as enlightening as this one.

      Do you have courses on this subject? Sometimes we have very operational doubts.

      I would like to congratulate you on your gratitude!

    • #7303
      Angélica Segura
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      Congratulations on the material Dr. Vinícius!
      I'd like to know what you think about the taxation of VGBLs for non-residents.
      Some insurance companies withhold tax on the whole amount (similar to the PGBL) at a single rate of 15%, while others keep the same rate, but only on income, which in my opinion would be the most beneficial for the PF investor, who would make any adjustments in their country of residence, encouraging them to keep the funds here in Brazil.

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      Flavio
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      So, Tersi, it seems to me that in terms of income tax, the taxation boils down to 25% (services, work and rents) and 15% (capital gain, financial income, etc.), correct? Are there any other tax charges (IOF, IOF for remittances abroad, or state taxation)?

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